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Phoenix Dragon Tribal Tattoo by WildSpiritWolf Phoenix Dragon Tribal Tattoo by WildSpiritWolf
Here's :iconpassionphyre: 's completed tribal tattoo of a phoenix and a dragon.

Inspired by this image: [link]

This design was created specifically for the commissioner's use only. If you would like a design custom created for you, drop me a note or see my FAQ journal entry if you need more info.


Lineart: Micron Pen Size 03

And thank you to PearlEden for the awesome watermark!


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SHINee-ABC Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Well at least now I know what my next tattoo will be XD
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:iconwildspiritwolf:
WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015

Thank you for the compliment but the designs in my gallery are solely for the use of my customers who originally paid to have me custom design them and they are not for public use or any kind of alteration other than myself or my clients. However, if you're interested in placing an order for a similar custom design of your own, I'd be happy to work with you on it. 

Or, if you would like to purchase one of my pre-made designs that are available for license of $15 USD each, please click here: wildspiritwolf.deviantart.com/…

--WildSpirit

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jonathanz Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Love this. The two forms together create a great shape.
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ORARAS Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013
love it baby sis when we going reaving
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WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
I'm sorry, I think you have me confused with someone else.  I only have one sister and she does not have a devART account.  :hmm:

--WildSpirit
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:iconphoenixdragon2033:
Phoenixdragon2033 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
Ermergerd, my two favorite mythical creatures combined!! I love you this is beautiful!!
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nykol-haebrd Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
very nice ^_^
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:icona7xlover1995sabrina:
A7xlover1995sabrina Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
And I'll gladly pay you for a commission of it, or something similar to it. :)
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:iconwildspiritwolf:
WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013
Thank you for your interest.

The designs in my gallery are solely for the use of my customers who originally paid to have me custom design them and they are not for public use or any kind of alteration other than myself or my clients. However, if you're interested in placing an order for a similar custom design of your own, I'd be definitely be happy to work with you on it. 

Or, if you would like to purchase one of my pre-made designs that are available for license of $15 USD each, please click here: [link]

--WildSpirit
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A7xlover1995sabrina Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
I saw this amazing design and immediately fell in love with it. Could I ask your permission to get a tattoo of it? I was also thinking if you would allow it, to give the Phoenix a fiery aura and maybe a teal/blue/green aura for the dragon. Thanks.
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:iconwildspiritwolf:
WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013
Thank you for asking.

The designs in my gallery are solely for the use of my customers who originally paid to have me custom design them and they are not for public use or any kind of alteration other than myself or my clients. However, if you're interested in placing an order for a similar custom design of your own, I'd be happy to work with you on it. 

Or, if you would like to purchase one of my pre-made designs that are available for license of $15 USD each, please click here: [link]

--WildSpirit
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Artesox Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Student Writer
Amazing style
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marcoco666 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
i love the PHOENIX DRAGON TRIBAL TATTOO , by : wildspiritwolf ..... i would like to know if I can , please-please-please , have the permission of the author, to use this superb drawing for myself , to AND ONLY TO tattoo it on me : I have a tatto gun, ink, etc..., and all what it takes to tattoo myself, but i need to know BEFORE printing it, if the author and/or possessor of the copyrights for this drawing would be in accord with me to use this drawing to tattoo it on me...please give me news as promply as possible, I cannot wait much longer... I NEED THIS TATTOO ON ME!!!!!!! i give you my email, so you will be able to anwser me : fideskizal@bell.net thanks for anwsering to me...!... marc-olivier dumont
have a nice day!
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WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Thank you for asking.

The designs in my gallery are solely for the use of my customers who originally paid to have me custom design them and they are not for public use or any kind of alteration other than myself or my clients. However, if you're interested in placing an order for a similar custom design of your own, I'd be happy to work with you on it. 

Or, if you would like to purchase one of my pre-made designs that are available for license of $15 USD each, please click here: [link]

--WildSpirit
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:iconbeautifuldarkness666:
Oh and for those curious, the logo on the Dark Phoenix Facebook wall was changed to a placeholder as well as Twitter, Google+. I imagine it takes time to re-do an entire website while people are crying about what they think they know. Oh well.
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peteramthor Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
I reported your use of that image as your avatar to the artist who created it. Also linked to this entire conversation to show that you are using that account to defend a person who used, without permission, a creation of another user on deviant art.
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RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
How do you explain this?

06:24, 31 October 2010 Mykal lakim (talk | contribs) uploaded "File:Drklogo2010.jpg" ({{Information |Description = |Source = I (~~~) created this work entirely by myself. |Date = ~~~~~ |Author = ~~~Mykal Lakim, Dark Phoenix Publishing, copyright 2010 |other_versions = }})

19:42, 9 May 2010 Mykal lakim (talk | contribs) uploaded "File:Darkphoenixlogo.jpg" ({{Information |Description = |Source = I (~~~) created this work entirely by myself. |Date = ~~~~~ |Author = ~~~ |other_versions = }})

[link]
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RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Really? It's been removed everywhere?

ON THE HOME PAGE:
[link]

In the PDFs:
Vampire's Player Guide (dated 1/8/2013 - after you were informed of the infringement): pg. 3
Lilliana Preview (dated 12/31/2012 - ditto): pg. 3
The Bucoli Preview: pg. 3

You put forward a half-assed effort, not a good faith one.
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RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Also, most websites that have an issue which take time to fix are taken offline, and then relaunched. I thought you were working on a Computer Science degree?
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jhubert Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice avatar. Does DeviantArt user aaronsimscompany know that you are using it?

[link]
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palmedfire Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Yea, it does time a bit of time. Perhaps that should have been thought of before using uncredited artwork. Especially if trying to run a legit business.
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warpheadz Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Their logo still hasn't been changed on their website or on the previews that they have put out since wildspiritwolf asked them to not use it anymore since DPP didn't have permission to use it.
Imagine the time it saves to not have to re-do anything because you passed business 101 and made sure that any and all art that you used was properly attributed and you had full permission to use it.
This isn't rocket surgery. It's a pretty simple concept. If you want to use a piece of art in something you are going to sell, make sure you have the rights to do so. Mykal didn't bother to do that either for this tattoo design, or the bit on his werewolves he stole from a native american author, or every other piece of art he has ever used in any project ever. Even his game is a whole cloth rip off of white wolf.
If I was WildWolfSpirit I would be afraid that I wouldn't get paid and he would still use the art I created. That's how he rolls.
Calling a thief a thief is not trolling, its a public service.
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:iconbeautifuldarkness666:
Really Trustrum, because on their Facebook page they made it pretty clear they commissioned an artist to redo their logo. Then, after people started making assumptions, they stated it was WildWolfSpirit. The people making assumptions didn't know very much and were making retarded allegations. Most businesses do that. It's a common practice not to mention who you do business with until AFTER the work is done so you can credit the person who did the work. With the way the internet is anyone can find anything. If you read the forum thread below, someone found another link here on Deviant Art where someone drew the image and had it up with their art. I guess it's easy to point a finger when you have no idea what someone's doing. Aside from spilling their guts, which no company does, ever, they operate like any other company. To me it looks like they release books, previews, negotiate quite a bit with local artists and have people making unfair accusations.
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Trustrum Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Yeah, really. I have a bit of experience in the RPG industry ... just a bit, mind ... and I'm quite certain there is very little about how Dark Phoenix Publishing runs that is typical or standard for the industry, or businesses in general. Of course, you already know that. Considering you're a new account that was created just to join this discussion, you're either Mykal or one of his circle of similarly ignorant circle of amateurs. The fact of the matter is, publishers name their artists and writers prior to release as a way to improve their marketing strategy. Keeping those name secret is only done if you have something to hide (like not being able to name the artist because you used their art without permission) or are purposefully trying to prevent any buzz from spreading. If you think no companies "spills their guts, you're either lying or just ignorant. Most RPG companies have blogs or the like specifically to "spill their guts."
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RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Do you mean this, where Mr. Lakim clearly states "the artist you speak of has been commissioned to create our new logo", in direct reference to Donald Walsh's statement?

[link]

I apologize to WildSpiritWolf (at least I have the respect to get her name right) for being dragged into this - but this is the sort of thing you can expect.
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:iconbeautifuldarkness666:
Any business has the right to protect the names of anyone they do business with. Tons of businesses do it. So they didn't know the image was taken, here on this thread there were multiple people pointing out multiple other places the same logo or a version of it was used by other people. Have you ever asked anyone at the company about it? If they gave you an answer why is that not good enough? Instead you run around making accusations. OOOH you did a screenshot. That's not evidence, that makes you look like a douche. The source is on their page. I looked. Maybe this is the sort of thing people can expect.
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jhubert Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A Google Image search takes half a minute. And after that, you should know whether there is a copyright on the image or not. In fact, assume that an image is copyrighted until you can prove otherwise. Anything else is just highly unprofessional.
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Trustrum Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Except DPP was NOT "protecting any names." WildSpiritWolf has outright said on this very page that he hadn't given permission and wasn't aware of the usage--he/she actually used the words "copyright infringement." That's not an accusation, that's a fact directly from the artist. The horse is out of the barn, over the fence, and down the road, so you are FAR too late to try and get the horse back in by portraying it as something that was already in the works, Mykal.
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peteramthor Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
I like how this Mykal sockpuppet ignored your post here. The actual proof that he stole the work as the actual artist said they had never given him permission to use it. Can't spin the undeniable truth so he avoids it.
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RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
"Everybody else was doing it!" isn't a valid excuse. Responsible businesses make sure that everything they use is properly licensed. Finding unattributed art on the Internet and wanting to use it in a published product means locating the original artist - something which took me *five minutes* to do in the case of WildSpiritWolf's piece using a combination of Tineye and Google Image Search. Five minutes. At that point, I'm sure she would have told you that you can't use this piece, but she'd gladly take commission for another. Instead you couldn't be assed to do that much and had to be forced to remove the logo - which you still haven't done in many places. This includes PDFs that have already been sold - any responsible publisher would be sending out revised PDFs and requesting buyers to delete the version with the unlicensed art, which has *not happened*. Either you have no idea how publishing works (unlikely for a company that's been around since 1999), simply don't care or both.
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:iconbeautifuldarkness666:
No one asked for a "everyone was doing it" rant. I guess I'll have to message them since you won't to see what's going on with that. Should I screenshot the message for you since you seem to be one of those people who desire proof from everyone so you can rant some more?
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RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Sure, that would be fantastic.

BTW, the term isn't "rant", since a rant is an angry, incoherent post with no focus or point. My reply was neither angry nor incoherent, and had a perfectly clear point.
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lissilambe Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Except that the artist has stated here by the artist that he/DPP was to stop using the...ahem, 'misappropriated' art as well. It has come down off facebook, but remains in use by his company, on the website (home page) as well as in the latest preview (with a link posted at the Facebook page). I bring this up because the artist has stated they were to be removed, and he agreed to it, and she should know it's not been done yet. Of course, if things have changed, and the artist has new information I am happy to stand corrected. But by the information already provided, he's still using the art for his logo and therefore is absolutely now willfully using the artist's work wrongfully (especially as there remains no credit for the logo on the company site or preview).

Take care
Don
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warpheadz Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Looks like Mykal just emptied his sock drawer.
The chronology of events is evident on here. Dark Phoenix publishing used this art without the artists permission. Once it was brought up to the artist they went about getting facebook to take down their art. Only after he was caught did Mykal decide to try and pay the artist for her excellent work.
Common business practice is to credit artists for the art you are using when you use it, not after getting caught stealing it and getting tired of deleting all comments exposing you as a crook. DPP does not operate like any other company, the operate like a total amateur hack job who has made their business by stealing from other more successful games and artists.

WildWolfSpirit- seriously steer clear of this train wreck, its going to get much worse.
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Trustrum Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
DPP knew what they were doing when they used your tattoo. It was pointed out to them. They've seen an image someone created of all the artwork/photos they've known to have taken and used without permission, and yours was among them. They deleted all posts regarding their IP infringement from their FB page without so much as an "oh, we didn't know we couldn't do that!" In fact, they have frequently said that they have a "legal staff" checking those things over, going over their deals for movies, video games, etc., etc. They've also impotently told people they will sue for saying they are using infringing work. So, clearly, they knew what they were doing or, at the very least, had it brought to their attention (excuse me, the attention of their "legal team") to verify whether or not they can just grab art from the Internet and use it without permission in a product they charge money for.

WildSpiritWolf, were I you I would steer well clear of this company. They are an amateur operation making bold claims and releasing product that infringes on written and artistic copyrights left and right. Their entire product line is one step shy of being wholly ripped off from another company's books. Getting involved with them is unlikely to get you paid (they are going online to steal their own logo and filler art, after all, rather than even try paying bottom dollar to a starving artist), but can also seriously harm the reputations of any actual professionals who get entangled in their mess.

This is not a professional publisher. This is a sad amateur who is trying to "live the dream" and is messing up in every possible way. From charging money for unedited products he then claims are "preview" versions once the poor quality is pointed out, to not being able to sell his PDFs at the world's largest online PDF RPG store because he thinks it's tied to the company he is ripping off his content from (White Wolf) to even making claims White Wolf ripped off his ideas years ago. This "company" is just waiting to implode, and I bluntly suggest you don't want your good name or work getting taken down with it when it goes.
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warpheadz Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013
Yeah, I would like to add my voice in on the whole "don't do it" thing. You have genuine talent and skill, I highly doubt they could actually compensate you for either the money they have already made off of your design, or pay you adequately for the time it takes to make a new design for them. I would steer clear, their train is about to go off the rails and you don't want to be attached to it in any way shape or form.
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OtherwiseEngaged Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
[link]

The logo looks... strikingly familiar, if missing a certain something (like half of the design).
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WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Thanks for the heads-up. I have contacted them about the copyright infringement.

--WildSpirit
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peteramthor Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
[link] He's still got the logo plastered all over his upcoming books he's showing off on his facebook page.
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WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
Ugh, wow. Well, I did contact him on his website but never heard back. Today, I contacted him through his facebook so hopefully I will hear a reply back this time. I also turned in all the images where he used my design and turned them in to facebook's copyright department so there should be some progress in that area at least.

Thanks for sending over the fb links!

--WildSpirit
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:iconrivetgeekwil:
RivetGeekWil Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
Is it true that Dark Phoenix Publishing commissioned you to create the new logo?
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:iconwildspiritwolf:
WildSpiritWolf Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
The logo that is currently posted on the Dark Phoenix website is unauthorized usage. They did not realize that it was a copyrighted design and that it was not intended for reuse by the public. Because of this, the logo that is there currently should be gone from the website in the next couple days.

After discussing the matter with them, Dark Phoenix will be commissioning me for a similar custom design for use on their website. That new design, once created, will be legal for them to use as their logo.

--WildSpirit
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jhubert Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would insist on payment up front, if I were you.

They have a rather significant history of "not realizing something was copyrighted"...
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